Do legendary survivors get crappy drops? - Guild Wars Forums

Dryndalyn · Mar 10, 2008, 04:48 PM // 16:48

Will my legendary survivor get crappy drops?

I have a character that has recently made it to legendary survivor. I am not currently playing with her because I am saving her to play with my friend who must upgrade her computer first because she lags too much.

However, over the last year and a half, I have noticed that if two players are both playing well, but one has a lower level of experience, then the lower level experienced person always gets the good drops like green items and such.

For example, if I am playing my best character for green drops when I solo, and then I play her with a person such as my hubby???s main character or another friend???s character of greater experience, I get the green drops and other good drops in my name. But when I play this character with my hubby???s new character or a lower XP level friend???s character, the green drops/good drops will still come, but they are always in the name of the lower level XP person???s character. This seems true regardless of how fantastic the kill I had was or even if I was the only one on the boss at the time, or whatever the situation. This has seemed very consistent. The result always seems to be the same no matter who is playing unless I am playing with a really, really bad player.

It???s not even just me who finds this. Recently, my friend was helping her husband???s new character with her high level character and she said that he was getting all of the lucky drops. I told her that it seems that in a pair of human players, as long as both players are playing moderately well, the overall good drops go to the lower XP player.

I have not tested this theory against all extraneous variables yet, or with a larger group of human players. As for my legendary survivor, I have not tested this theory at all on her because I am saving her to play later. However, I am afraid that when I start playing her she will never get good drops unless she travels with a ???God Walking Amongst Mere Mortals!???

So, is it wise to make any more legendary survivors? I really like trying to get this title, but I value my drops more, mostly because I don???t prefer to farm for drops or do a lot of trade with human merchants. Almost all of the good drops I get when I just play through the game, I keep and use on my characters.

I looked in Guildwiki, but there is no mention of this particular issue in the section on drop rates. However, this particular drop-rate inequality seems very, very consistent. So I want to know what people think of this and whether or not they found that while they were playing their legendary survivor with their friend or with one other human player, did they experience a crappy drop rate?

Chilos · Mar 10, 2008, 04:50 PM // 16:50

No. You just had a bad day.

RiKio · Mar 10, 2008, 04:51 PM // 16:51

Eh....baed lukc, mabye?

netniwk · Mar 10, 2008, 05:01 PM // 17:01

the government doesn't want us to get surivor!

Dryndalyn · Mar 10, 2008, 05:14 PM // 17:14

Ha, ha, ha! That last one by netniwk is really funny!

Actually, I have had good luck for the most part.

I usually play with my hubby who mostly sticks to the same characters more often than I do, so my drops are good. I play so many different characters that many are lower in XP than his.

It is just that I have noticed the difference when I play with his new charcters or well... read the above more carefully.

I am not talking about one day. I am talking about a year and a half or more of observation as an active player.

Proff · Mar 10, 2008, 05:25 PM // 17:25

It's just luck...

Mr. G · Mar 10, 2008, 05:28 PM // 17:28

isnt there alreayd a Anet Hates me

Stolen Souls · Mar 10, 2008, 05:32 PM // 17:32

I heard if you spin three times on your chair then play while doing a handstand...your drops will be much better.

cgruber · Mar 10, 2008, 05:36 PM // 17:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stolen Souls

I heard if you spin three times on your chair then play while doing a handstand...your drops will be much better.

QFT.. I just got 3 black dyes!

Thierry2 · Mar 10, 2008, 05:38 PM // 17:38

Aye..it's just bad luck.

**cosyfiep** · Mar 10, 2008, 06:26 PM // 18:26

well most of my husbands characters have more xp than mine ----and he ALWAYS gets the good drops. (he has less characters than I do so when we play I have a choice of 15 he only has 6 thus he gets more xp with those than mine, though...nevermind).
It is all just luck....I dont believe it has anything to do with xp, now my conspiracy is it has to do with how long of a break your character has taken--and the last time they went to the area you are in----I seem to get better drops when I play a character that hasnt gotten out recently and go to a place they havent been to in a while....like factions, played thru it with most of my characters, went back to finish up some quests/get faction for amber...and got some nice drops.

so when you figure out whether its just plain old luck or something else, let us all know!

I pwnd U · Mar 10, 2008, 06:35 PM // 18:35

Okay even if we were to go off your theory, legendary survivor only takes 1,337,000 XP. Now the 2 characters that I use for almost everything easily have more then that. It's not hard to get over 1 mil XP points anymore, even if you just play through the game and do quest. With as many quest and missions out there it's fairly simple. So your legendary survivor would still have less XP then many people's main characters. So if your theory were true then you would still get the "better" drops.

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Dryndalyn · Mar 10, 2008, 06:39 PM // 18:39

Well, if this is true, it's refreshing. I would prefer it to be true, but I still recognize a pattern.

Perhaps it's something else, like my playing style. I may not want to wreck the game for my newbie friends, by slaying everything with my higher level character, so I might unconsciously hold back. It??? not like this has undergone serious testing or anything.

I guess I will continue to monitor it, keeping an eye on my play style changes and maybe make notes on drops versus experience levels and so on.

What can I say, it???s the scientist in me???I can???t help it!

MagmaRed · Mar 10, 2008, 06:45 PM // 18:45

Unless you track what monsters you kill, what skills you use, what classes your team uses, what XP each member of the team has, and things like who lands the killing blow, who is in aggro range, who never did damage at all, etc., you can't study this.

There are MANY MANY MANY variables. I highly doubt Anet took time to make drop rates dependent on things like player XP, killing blows, etc. But please, if the scientist in you wants an answer, be thorough, and don't do a half-assed study that looks good, but says nothing.

Dryndalyn · Mar 10, 2008, 06:54 PM // 18:54

Ahhh, I just saw the posts from cosyfiep and I pwnd U.

That is helpful info. Thanks.

I have 30 or so characters, all receiving a good amount of play for the most part, so they each don't see that much XP as 1,000,000. Only 2 of my characters have reached that, not including the survivor.

But this "new area" theory makes sense and would explain why I am usually lucky when I travel with my hubby. Ok.

Andy yes, MagmaRed, I realize that such a study with my limited programming knowledge is futile.

I just wish I knew more about how it all worked. Oh well, I guess that's privileged information.

Healers Wisper · Mar 10, 2008, 07:00 PM // 19:00

I dont really think this is the case. If it was I would be labeled the lucky SOB in my group. I have the least experience on all my alliance friends, esp if we all play mains. Also I have the lowest title ranks and least time in game. (dont have legendary survivor so I cant account for that) My drops are fair to good in most areas when grouping and flat out crap when h/hing.

I have noticed and have strong data to suggest that completeing and turning in quests regularly, switching zones, games, and charactors help drop rates. I also find playing with people helps drops rates for me and the people I play with.

pkodyssey · Mar 10, 2008, 07:09 PM // 19:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by netniwk

the government doesn't want us to get surivor!

Hey....

Thats what I do to get better drops. Don't steal my idea.

On-topic, Its all luck.

Eldin · Mar 10, 2008, 07:17 PM // 19:17

Bad luck.

My two year old Ranger who is totally epic and has explored most of Tyria and was part of the very first Wintersday and knows more GW lore than most players...

...doesn't even have R1 KoaBD. Also has only one 15k set. Also in UW trapping groups, the leader gets an ecto on the 1st Aatxe and I don't even get my merch food - and then conveniently the others have to go after, wasting 40 mins of my life.

It's just bad luck. EVIL, BIASED, bad luck.

Olim Chill · Mar 10, 2008, 08:11 PM // 20:11

I remember getting a black dye right after I hit LS and have been sort of a black (and white) dye magnet ever since. I can't complain.

tommarrow · Mar 10, 2008, 08:33 PM // 20:33

I play with the same people all of the time and the drops seem to go well for one person over others then the next time on the same characters someone else, or even me, will get the drops, just random.

Mar 10, 2008, 04:48 PM // 16:48	#1
Dryndalyn Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2007	Do legendary survivors get crappy drops? Will my legendary survivor get crappy drops? I have a character that has recently made it to legendary survivor. I am not currently playing with her because I am saving her to play with my friend who must upgrade her computer first because she lags too much. However, over the last year and a half, I have noticed that if two players are both playing well, but one has a lower level of experience, then the lower level experienced person always gets the good drops like green items and such. For example, if I am playing my best character for green drops when I solo, and then I play her with a person such as my hubby???s main character or another friend???s character of greater experience, I get the green drops and other good drops in my name. But when I play this character with my hubby???s new character or a lower XP level friend???s character, the green drops/good drops will still come, but they are always in the name of the lower level XP person???s character. This seems true regardless of how fantastic the kill I had was or even if I was the only one on the boss at the time, or whatever the situation. This has seemed very consistent. The result always seems to be the same no matter who is playing unless I am playing with a really, really bad player. It???s not even just me who finds this. Recently, my friend was helping her husband???s new character with her high level character and she said that he was getting all of the lucky drops. I told her that it seems that in a pair of human players, as long as both players are playing moderately well, the overall good drops go to the lower XP player. I have not tested this theory against all extraneous variables yet, or with a larger group of human players. As for my legendary survivor, I have not tested this theory at all on her because I am saving her to play later. However, I am afraid that when I start playing her she will never get good drops unless she travels with a ???God Walking Amongst Mere Mortals!??? So, is it wise to make any more legendary survivors? I really like trying to get this title, but I value my drops more, mostly because I don???t prefer to farm for drops or do a lot of trade with human merchants. Almost all of the good drops I get when I just play through the game, I keep and use on my characters. I looked in Guildwiki, but there is no mention of this particular issue in the section on drop rates. However, this particular drop-rate inequality seems very, very consistent. So I want to know what people think of this and whether or not they found that while they were playing their legendary survivor with their friend or with one other human player, did they experience a crappy drop rate?

Mar 10, 2008, 04:50 PM // 16:50	#2
Chilos Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Oulu, in magical land called Finland	No. You just had a bad day.

Mar 10, 2008, 04:51 PM // 16:51	#3
RiKio Krytan Explorer Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Plato's Cave Profession: W/E	Eh....baed lukc, mabye?

Mar 10, 2008, 05:01 PM // 17:01	#4
netniwk Desert Nomad Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bellgium Profession: W/E	the government doesn't want us to get surivor!

Mar 10, 2008, 05:14 PM // 17:14	#5
Dryndalyn Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2007	Ha, ha, ha! That last one by netniwk is really funny! Actually, I have had good luck for the most part. I usually play with my hubby who mostly sticks to the same characters more often than I do, so my drops are good. I play so many different characters that many are lower in XP than his. It is just that I have noticed the difference when I play with his new charcters or well... read the above more carefully. I am not talking about one day. I am talking about a year and a half or more of observation as an active player.

Mar 10, 2008, 05:25 PM // 17:25	#6
Proff Jungle Guide Join Date: Jun 2007	It's just luck...

Mar 10, 2008, 05:28 PM // 17:28	#7
Mr. G Desert Nomad Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: S. Wales Profession: Mo/Me	isnt there alreayd a Anet Hates me

Mar 10, 2008, 05:32 PM // 17:32	#8
Stolen Souls Desert Nomad Join Date: Feb 2006	I heard if you spin three times on your chair then play while doing a handstand...your drops will be much better.

Mar 10, 2008, 05:38 PM // 17:38	#10
Thierry2 Krytan Explorer Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: The Netherlands Profession: Mo/	Aye..it's just bad luck.

Mar 10, 2008, 06:26 PM // 18:26	#11
cosyfiep are we there yet? Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: in a land far far away Guild: guild? I am supposed to have a guild? Profession: Rt/	well most of my husbands characters have more xp than mine ----and he ALWAYS gets the good drops. (he has less characters than I do so when we play I have a choice of 15 he only has 6 thus he gets more xp with those than mine, though...nevermind). It is all just luck....I dont believe it has anything to do with xp, now my conspiracy is it has to do with how long of a break your character has taken--and the last time they went to the area you are in----I seem to get better drops when I play a character that hasnt gotten out recently and go to a place they havent been to in a while....like factions, played thru it with most of my characters, went back to finish up some quests/get faction for amber...and got some nice drops. so when you figure out whether its just plain old luck or something else, let us all know!

Mar 10, 2008, 06:35 PM // 18:35	#12
I pwnd U God of Spammers Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: in the middle of a burning cornfield... Guild: Scars Meadows [SMS] (Officer)	Okay even if we were to go off your theory, legendary survivor only takes 1,337,000 XP. Now the 2 characters that I use for almost everything easily have more then that. It's not hard to get over 1 mil XP points anymore, even if you just play through the game and do quest. With as many quest and missions out there it's fairly simple. So your legendary survivor would still have less XP then many people's main characters. So if your theory were true then you would still get the "better" drops. __________________________________________________ _________ Forum Helpful Hint #40: Soup is good for the soul, but better for a cold

Mar 10, 2008, 06:39 PM // 18:39	#13
Dryndalyn Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2007	Well, if this is true, it's refreshing. I would prefer it to be true, but I still recognize a pattern. Perhaps it's something else, like my playing style. I may not want to wreck the game for my newbie friends, by slaying everything with my higher level character, so I might unconsciously hold back. It??? not like this has undergone serious testing or anything. I guess I will continue to monitor it, keeping an eye on my play style changes and maybe make notes on drops versus experience levels and so on. What can I say, it???s the scientist in me???I can???t help it!

Mar 10, 2008, 06:45 PM // 18:45	#14
MagmaRed Furnace Stoker Join Date: Mar 2007 Guild: Our Crabs Know True [LOVE] Profession: R/	Unless you track what monsters you kill, what skills you use, what classes your team uses, what XP each member of the team has, and things like who lands the killing blow, who is in aggro range, who never did damage at all, etc., you can't study this. There are MANY MANY MANY variables. I highly doubt Anet took time to make drop rates dependent on things like player XP, killing blows, etc. But please, if the scientist in you wants an answer, be thorough, and don't do a half-assed study that looks good, but says nothing.

Mar 10, 2008, 06:54 PM // 18:54	#15
Dryndalyn Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2007	Ahhh, I just saw the posts from cosyfiep and I pwnd U. That is helpful info. Thanks. I have 30 or so characters, all receiving a good amount of play for the most part, so they each don't see that much XP as 1,000,000. Only 2 of my characters have reached that, not including the survivor. But this "new area" theory makes sense and would explain why I am usually lucky when I travel with my hubby. Ok. Andy yes, MagmaRed, I realize that such a study with my limited programming knowledge is futile. I just wish I knew more about how it all worked. Oh well, I guess that's privileged information.

Mar 10, 2008, 07:00 PM // 19:00	#16
Healers Wisper Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Anaheim, CA Guild: BoMB Profession: N/	I dont really think this is the case. If it was I would be labeled the lucky SOB in my group. I have the least experience on all my alliance friends, esp if we all play mains. Also I have the lowest title ranks and least time in game. (dont have legendary survivor so I cant account for that) My drops are fair to good in most areas when grouping and flat out crap when h/hing. I have noticed and have strong data to suggest that completeing and turning in quests regularly, switching zones, games, and charactors help drop rates. I also find playing with people helps drops rates for me and the people I play with.

Mar 10, 2008, 07:17 PM // 19:17	#18
Eldin Forge Runner Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: America. How about you, commie? Guild: Fellows of Mythgar [FOM] Profession: R/Mo	Bad luck. My two year old Ranger who is totally epic and has explored most of Tyria and was part of the very first Wintersday and knows more GW lore than most players... ...doesn't even have R1 KoaBD. Also has only one 15k set. Also in UW trapping groups, the leader gets an ecto on the 1st Aatxe and I don't even get my merch food - and then conveniently the others have to go after, wasting 40 mins of my life. It's just bad luck. EVIL, BIASED, bad luck.

Mar 10, 2008, 08:11 PM // 20:11	#19
Olim Chill Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: USA Guild: DMI Profession: N/	I remember getting a black dye right after I hit LS and have been sort of a black (and white) dye magnet ever since. I can't complain.

Mar 10, 2008, 08:33 PM // 20:33	#20
tommarrow Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Dec 2005 Guild: Shyft Machine [MYTH] Profession: E/	I play with the same people all of the time and the drops seem to go well for one person over others then the next time on the same characters someone else, or even me, will get the drops, just random.